http://www.postindependent.com/article/20041217/valleynews/112170011 .
http://www.postindependent.com/article/20041217/valleynews/112170011 .
overcast 29. .
Didn't read the article, too ahrd to read.
But it IS COMMANDED [and therefore required] to go door to door:
Doesn't Matt 28 say to "Go therefore and make disciples!!!"
I was told it was not an option based on the above scripture, rather , it is a command from Jesus [WTS]
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in my past witness life ive done the jw tours etc.is it true they miss out anything that debunks the 607 theory?i want to look around the place to see for myself some time soon.. 607 is a no-no ,i know that.i just need to see for myself though.. has anyone here done a official tour ,with the intent of confirming for themselves the wt prophecies are false?
I've done the tour, but was a hard core dub at the time, so I would have missed such an ommision
ok. i'm almost finished with c.c.
really good published evidence against the gb.
i don't think i will become an atheist as many have but where do i go now.
Find your True Self.
This is Truth; your Authentic Self never changes and never lets you down. It is your Universe it is a part of all Life
witnesses like to use logic and reason to support their ideas.
here is what happens when logic and reason is applied to food.. .
bread.
My HS Social Studies teacher gave us an interesting example of this reasoning:
Statistics show that more ice cream is consumed during hot weather than during cold weather, thus, the consumption of ice cream causes temperatures to rise
witnesses like to use logic and reason to support their ideas.
here is what happens when logic and reason is applied to food.. .
bread.
"It's funny because it's true"
~ Homer Simpson
2 nights ago, i had a weird dream.
i dreamt that an angel named macaroni visited me with billy ocean and told me to spread the word about the god uranus.
it also told me that i will have a girlfriend in the future.
You first have to make an image of your god for your followers to bow down to, then your minions can worship Uranus
as some of you on the board knew i was expecting a baby, i feel i should let you know that things have not worked out for us.. when i went for the 20 week ultrasound scan last thursday, severe problems were found with our baby's internal development.
only one kidney was detected, and it was very enlarged and polycystic.
there was no long term hope for the baby at all; if it survived to full term it could only live for hours at most.
I'm so sorry for you.
We went through a miscarriage ourselves @ 12 weeks, shorter term, and maybe less traumatic than your experience.
Any miscarriage is traumatic none the less
lately something has bothered me as regards to many on jwd who wonder what to do, once they have found the organisation to be a destructive, mind controling sect.
aside from these ones deciding how to exit without causing a judicial meeting nor a stir among the publishers, it whether or not they want to risk their marriage and or family ties.. many on this site have related how their marriage fell to pieces because the dub mate could not accept their loved one "leaving jehovah", and they could never meet in the middle to save the marriage.
others who leave, push their dub mate away by their constant verbal expressions against the organisation...because they think they should....hence, the marriage falls apart.. here's the hard part i don't know the answer to.
Winston....can a person not have personal integrity to themselves in their heart by believing what they want within themselves? If my wife asks me if her butt looks big in her pants.....should I keep integrity to myself and tell the truth, or say...."yes hun, it looks good"?Gumby
Gumblebutt I think that it can be little of both and benefit both parties. Instead of replying to the question of "Do these pants make my a$$ look fat" with a quick "yes", I think that it would be just as easy, and honest to say, "I think this other pair is more flattering" Integrity and tactfulness do not have to be mutually exclusive of each other. Wasn't there some saying in that old mythical book about "Apples of gold in silver Plymouth Caravans is a word spoken at the right time" or sumpin' RE: the parents not loving children, I agree with everyone.. I agree with all points because I feel that the True Authentic Self becomes buried inside of the "New Personality ?" that we were always trying to squeeze into. The cult personality will let the child die because of the blood issue. Hell, the cult personality would probably slit their own child's throat if "Arm-a-getting ®" was right around the corner and the WatchTower said that you had to kill your own child to get them into the "New System © ". The means justify the end. But deep down, the True Authentic Self would be pained beyond belief, because most parents [even JW one's] love their children and would give their own life for their child. Cult living is chock full with examples of Cognitive Dissonance. This is a big one.
well, it looks like the jehovah's witnesses are going to start intruding in my marriage again.. a little background, when i first met my husband he was going to meetings sporadically.
he has studied off and on for years but was never baptized so he's always been in the "love bombing" stage with them.
he believes most of the doctrines (no christmas although he lets me celebrate it, the trinity is wrong, etc.
Chloe,
A contributing factor is that he has been self-employed for the last couple of years which has been extremely stressful and time consuming without much monetary return so his self esteem is pretty low.
I went through that as well, it's tough. I learned the hard way that my skills in running a business are no where near my architectural skills.
I finally went to work for an architectural firm. Now I design all day, go home at night, and forget about business all together on the weekends. Oh, and I now have a check coming in every two weeks instead of hunting down clients for past due balances.
Maybe you can help him look through the Help Wanted ads in the paper to find a job? Use the premise that you want to spend more time with him and you want to help him free up his time by letting someone else worry about running a business.
As far as the spiritual search goes, maybe the two of you can read the Bible together once or twice a week? Not sure what to say there?
One thing is for sure, the WTS has enough low self-esteem, unaccomplished men on the organization already. If your man is feeling low right now, don?t let the WTS feed of off his fears and make him another JW victim. Hew likely is not such a man, otherwise you would not have married him, right? Let him know that. Build him up, not by blowing sunshine up his a$$, but by guiding him to a direction where he can succeed with the talents he does have.
Not everyone is a businessman, so there?s no shame in not succeeding, just in giving up.
lately something has bothered me as regards to many on jwd who wonder what to do, once they have found the organisation to be a destructive, mind controling sect.
aside from these ones deciding how to exit without causing a judicial meeting nor a stir among the publishers, it whether or not they want to risk their marriage and or family ties.. many on this site have related how their marriage fell to pieces because the dub mate could not accept their loved one "leaving jehovah", and they could never meet in the middle to save the marriage.
others who leave, push their dub mate away by their constant verbal expressions against the organisation...because they think they should....hence, the marriage falls apart.. here's the hard part i don't know the answer to.
It comes down to two things IMO:
#1: Myself, I was a JW because I believed it all hook, line, and sinker. Once I saw it was a farce, I had to continue to remain true to myself as I always had in the past and remove myself from such a destructive, deceptive group.
#2: For my wife, discussions between us made it evident that she had her hopes when she married a MS to be an elders wife, in the clique of hard-core JW's who judge others in the congregation. When I DA'd myself, that person died in her eyes.
I am begining to understand that one mate leaving the WTS will destroy a bad marriage, but a marriage founded on love for the spouse's inner, Authentic Self can possibly survive the storm.
